Finally someone using these forums for a real conversation, not bullshit. but i guess thats what you get when you place that many 13 year olds on one site. Jwmbike14 i agree and respectively disagree, the suspension designs that are available are limited any new ideas are shot down by a big company who has a similar design. So intense didn't have much of a choice leasing suspension designs. I think scotts new design is going to greatly increase the designs coming out which is the best thing that could happen, "Diversity". that will only help other company's get started and new ideas flowing.